Prince Harry has revealed he and Meghan Markle only want two children in a bid to help save the planet.
The Duke of Sussex, 34, made the extraordinary revelation in a candid interview with conservationist Dr Jane Goodall as part of his wife’s edition of British Vogue.
Discussing the ‘terrifying’ effects of climate change, he assured her he and the Duchess, 37, are only planning on having one more child after the birth of their son Archie.
He said becoming a father has made him see the world differently and the couple only want ‘two maximum’ to help protect the environment.
By not having a child, the carbon footprint of an individual living in a developed country would be reduced on average by an extra 58.6 tonnes of carbon dioxide every year, based on emission rates in 2017.
British charity Population Matters, of which Sir David Attenborough is the patron, is one of the leading campaigners on population control and has urged parents to ‘Stop at Two’.
However, Prince Harry’s stance is in stark contrast to his brother William and wife Kate, who already have three children, with speculation mounting a fourth could be announced soon.
The Queen meanwhile has four children, although Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Princess Anne all have just two.
Despite their commitment to saving the planet, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are known for their globetrotting lifestyle and use of private jets.
In February, Meghan travelled by private jet for a five-night trip to New York City, where she was thrown a lavish baby shower by her closest friends in a $75,000-a-night penthouse.
One return flight from London to New York generates more CO2 than citizens of some countries produce in a year, according to German nonprofit Atmosfair.
Prince Harry is pictured for his interview with Dr Jane Goodall for British Vogue’s September edition, guest edited by his wife Meghan Markle
The Duchess of Sussex is pictured at Smartworks’s London Office in preparation for her edition of British Vogue
An even longer flight in February saw Prince Harry race back from the Arctic Circle by private jet for Valentine’s Day dinner with wife Meghan.
After spending three hours with troops near the Russian border, Harry was back in London by 5pm following a 2,730-mile round trip and six hours in the air.
Prince Harry’s interview appears in the forthcoming September issue of the fashion magazine, guest-edited by Meghan Markle and featuring a cover shoot of female 15 ‘trailblazers’ and ‘changemakers’ for a special ‘Forces for Change’ issue.
The interview also saw Harry speak frankly about racism in Britain and how ‘unconscious bias’ is often passed down from generation to generation.
He told Dr Goodall, 85, Britons need to understand where their prejudices come from in order to tackle racial discrimination.
When Dr Goodall said there would be conflicts ‘over the last fertile land, the last fresh water’, Harry issued a dire warning about the consequences of mankind’s actions.
He said: ‘What we need to remind everybody is: these are things that are happening now. We are already living in it. We are the frog in the water and it’s already been brought to the boil. Which is terrifying.’
The primatologist agreed with him and said having a baby added to the concern, to which Harry replied: ‘It does make it different.’
He added: ‘I think, weirdly, because of the people that I’ve met and the places that I’ve been fortunate enough to go to, I’ve always had a connection and a love for nature.
‘I view it differently now, without question. But I’ve always wanted to try and ensure that, even before having a child and hoping to have children.’
Discussing his change in perspective about the environment, he told her: ‘I view it differently now, without question.
‘But I’ve always wanted to try and ensure that, even before having a child and hoping to have children…’
But when Dr Goodall cut in, saying: ‘Not too many…’ He replied: ‘Two, maximum!’, before the pair went on to talk about the other dangers facing the planet.
The environmental impact of having a child is calculated by factoring in not only the extra impact of the child, but also that of their potential future descendants.
British charity Population Matters is one of the leading campaigners on the thorny subject of population control.
Population Matters, of which Sir David Attenborough is the patron, has urged parents to ‘Stop at Two’.
Last year, the UK’s population saw its sharpest annual increase in nearly 70 years.
Although the Office for National Statistics said that net international migration was the main driver behind the growth, there were also rises in births and fewer deaths.
With our heavy consumption of fossil fuels such as petrol, coal and gas, Population Matters argue that we currently use nearly three times the renewable resources our land can provide.
Population Matters has thousands of members in Britain and around the world, with high-profile patrons — including Sir David Attenborough, TV naturalist Chris Packham and author Lionel Shriver — spreading the word on the dangers over-procreation presents to the planet.
Commenting on ‘unconscious bias’, Meghan Markle’s husband told Dr Goodall: ‘Despite the fact that if you go up to someone and say ‘what you’ve just said, or the way you’ve behaved, is racist’ – they’ll turn around and say, ‘I’m not a racist’.
‘I’m not saying you’re a racist, I’m just saying that your unconscious bias is proving that because of the way that you’ve been brought up, the environment you’ve been brought up in, suggests that you have this point of view – unconscious point of view – where naturally you will look at someone in a different way.’
Harry (pictured with Meghan and baby Archie when he was two days old at Windsor Castle) told Dr Goodall he sees the environment differently after becoming a father. Right, Harry’s brother Prince William already has three children, in contrast with his revelation he and Meghan want ‘two maximum’. The Duke of Cambridge is pictured with wife Kate, baby Louis, Charlotte and George in December last year
During the discussion, she said: ‘It’s crazy to think we can have unlimited economic development on a planet with finite natural resources.
‘There’s a lot of violence and war and suffering around the world today, but we’re part of the natural world, and if we can’t learn to live in harmony with it, then this is going to get worse.’
The conservationist welcomed Harry to a meeting of her youth empowerment project Roots and Shoots earlier this month at Windsor Castle, where she talked about how they ‘clicked’ when they first met last December, and hoped to work together raising awareness about conservation.
She was also invited to the duke’s Frogmore Cottage home near Windsor Castle in June where she cuddled Archie, who was then five weeks old.
Dr Goodall’s lifelong work with chimpanzees has made her an international figure, and she is credited with making the first recorded observations of chimpanzees using tools and eating meat.
When Harry asked how her study of primates had impacted upon how she felt about people, the discussion turned to the issue of violence and racism.
Dr Goodall said it was ‘obvious’ mankind had ‘inherited aggressive tendencies’, but human brains were able to control anger.
The duke said the same applied to ‘unconscious bias’, where someone’s words or actions could be perceived as racist, but if confronted the person would deny it.
Dr Goodall agreed saying children of all races play together happily without noticing a difference in the colour of their skin until someone points it out to them.
Some commentators and royal fans slammed Harry after reading the article slamming his ‘track record’ and asking him to ‘stop lecturing people’.
Royal writer Phil Dampier wrote: ‘With his track record #PrinceHarry is not the best person to be lecturing the rest of us about racism or ‘unconscious bias!’ Time to put a sock in it and get out and do some down to earth Royal jobs.’
Reflecting on racism and ‘hate’, Harry added: ‘You can only be taught to hate. What can we learn from nature? People always say, there is nature, then there is us. But we are part of it – we are nature.
‘Unless we acknowledge we are part of this cycle, then we’re always going to be fighting against it. Inevitably, because we’re so good at destruction, we’ll end up winning and nature might end up losing.’
And in a stark warning to readers, he added: ‘I always think to myself, whenever there’s another natural disaster, a huge increase in volcano eruptions or earthquakes or flooding, how many clues does nature have to give us before we actually learn, or wake ourselves up to the damage and the destruction that we’re causing?’
Harry also claimed ‘nature is a medicine’ but asked Dr Goodall how to inspire change among world leaders.
His comments come as commentators warned the royals against making political statements in the wake of the guest edit.
Online a number of people were quick to hit back, one telling the Prince to ‘be quiet’ and another suggesting he was not the best person to lecture about unconscious bias.
The September edition of British Vogue, which was guest edited by Meghan, is available on August 2
Harry asked Dr Goodall: ‘What can we do to lift up the current and/or emerging leaders within the countries who are dealing with the greatest challenges for wildlife and conservation?’
In another moment of deep reflection, Harry agreed that ‘growing up could be fun if you surround yourself with the right people and the right things.’
He added: ‘I think, again, what I’ve noticed in myself, is that life is about evolving. You are continually changing, and if you don’t think that every day is a learning process, then life is going to be very tricky for you.’
As the birth of ‘Baby Sussex’ approached, rumours swirled that the Cambridges would have their own baby announcement in the months to come.
But during a St Patrick’s Day walkabout in Northern Ireland, the Duchess replied to shouts of ‘number four’, with: ‘I think William would be a little worried.’
As guest editor for Vogue’s September issue, Meghan chose 15 women she branded ‘trailblazers’ and ‘forces for change’ in our society.
From British model Adwoa Aboah to New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, the Duchess chose women who have championed causes from transgender rights to body positivity to feature in the magazine.
It represents one of the most radical moves in Vogue’s 100-year history, with the magazine saying it considers the new September issue to be its most important edition of the year.
The Duchess, a former actress and avowed feminist, had initially been asked to appear on the cover herself. But Vogue’s editor-in-chief Edward Enninful said Meghan refused as she thought it would appear too ‘boastful’.
In a statement, Meghan said: ‘Through this lens I hope you’ll feel the strength of the collective in the diverse selection of women chosen for the cover as well as the team of support I called upon within the issue to help bring this to light.
‘I hope readers feel as inspired as I do, by the forces for change they’ll find within these pages.’
Meghan’s trailblazers include actress Jane Fonda, transgender Orange Is the New Black actress Laverne Cox and climate change campaigner Greta Thunberg.
The 16th image on the cover is a mirror to ‘include the reader and encourage them to use their own platforms to effect change’ – the Duchess’s idea.
Some commentators and royal fans slammed Harry after reading the article slamming his ‘track record’ and asking him to ‘stop lecturing people’
Others were full of praise for the Royal however, hailing his statement and sharing their approval of the article and interview
Edward Enniful, the magazine’s editor, added: ‘To have the country’s most influential beacon of change guest edit British Vogue at this time has been an honour, a pleasure and a wonderful surprise.
‘As you will see from her selections throughout this magazine, she is also willing to wade into more complex and nuanced areas, whether they concern female empowerment, mental health, race or privilege.
‘From the very beginning, we talked about the cover – whether she would be on it or not.
‘In the end, she felt that it would be in some ways a ‘boastful’ thing to do for this particular project.
Prince Charles, Prince Harry and the Duchess of Cambridge have all tried their hand at being journalists in recent years to plug causes close to their hearts.
But Meghan faced a furious backlash over her choices, while others claimed she should not be editing magazines under a royal title after keeping the names of Archie’s godparents a secret and snubbing the media from his christening.
She was also slammed for failing to include the Queen and for ignoring nurses, doctors, lawyers and teachers on the front cover.
The Duchess has battled negative comments about her race since she was first thrown into the spotlight with news of her engagement to Harry in the autumn of 2017.
She has dodged questions about her racial heritage, while those criticising her have been described as both racist and misogynist.
Sealed over a steaming cup of mint tea, how the Duchess unleashed her inner mermaid in Vogue
By Rebecca English, Royal Correspondent for the Daily Mail
The Duchess of Sussex has given an extraordinary insight into her social activism and political credo by personally penning a guest editor’s letter for Vogue, celebrating ‘the power of the collective’.
Addressing readers of the magazine, she boldly declares she wants to set a different tone in a world ‘where judgment can become clouded and focus skewed towards the superficial’.
Instead, she says, she wants to focus on ‘positivity, kindness, humour and inclusivity’ and ethical and sustainable fashion brands. She even promises a beauty section ‘that puts its energy towards internal beauty’ rather than physical aesthetics.
The duchess also offers a caveat for readers, reminding them that the magazine requires pages of adverts that may not chime with her overall ethos but ‘just come with the territory’.
Meghan cites feminist author Anais Nin – famed for writing female erotica – as one of her major inspirations, referencing a quote by one of her characters which says: ‘I must be a mermaid, Rango. I have no fear of depths and a great fear of shallow living.’
The release of the letter, ahead of the magazine’s publication on Friday, comes after it was revealed that Meghan had chosen 15 female trailblazers to feature on the cover of what will be a special Forces For Change edition of the 100-year-old fashion bible.
Meghan, the first to guest edit its prestigious September issue, reveals that she sealed the Vogue deal over mint tea with editor-in-chief Edward Enninful.
In a video posted to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Instagram (pictured), she appears alongside editor Vogue’s editor-in-chief Edward Enninful putting the finishing touches to the magazine
And she recalls how, after being offered the chance to appear on its front cover – as Princess Diana and the Duchess of Cambridge have – she sent a text message to Mr Enninful asking whether she could take charge of whole edition, signed with the single letter ‘M’.
Writing with what she suggests is a touch of bashfulness, she says: ‘Over a steaming cup of mint tea, we teased through how one can shine light in a world filled with seemingly daily darkness. Lofty? Of course. Worth it? Without question.
‘So I asked the question. Actually, I typed and deleted the question several times until I built up the courage to ask the question in question. ‘Edward… instead of doing the cover, would you be open to me guest editing your September issue?’ (Mind you, I know how important the September issue is for the fashion industry.
‘I realise the reach, and I see the opportunity to be a part of fashion’s push for something greater, kinder, more impactful. But I am also a little nervous to be boldly asking the editor-in-chief, whom I’d only just met, to take a chance on me.)
‘And then it appeared, EE’s reply: ‘Yes! I would love for you to be my guest editor’.
‘Sitting on my sofa at home, two dogs [one is a labrador puppy the Sussexes have refused to name or discuss publicly] nestled across me, I quietly celebrated when the words appeared on my screen.’
The result is that instead of having a single model on the front page of the most influential edition of any fashion magazine ahead of the autumn catwalk shows, Meghan’s issue features 15 women she admires, including celebrities, politicians and activists known for championing issues such as diversity, body positivity, transgender rights and climate change.
They include mental health campaigner Adowa Aboah, Orange Is The New Black actress Laverne Cox and teenage environmental protester Greta Thunberg.
Meghan says that within a week of their first meeting, she and Mr Enninful were discussing ideas but she was already clear where she wanted to go.
Citing Nin’s influence, she writes: ‘For this issue, I imagined, why would we swim in the shallow end of the pool when we could go to the deep end? A metaphor for life, as well as for this issue. Let’s be braver. Let’s go a bit deeper.
‘That’s what Edward and I have aimed to achieve. An issue of both substance and levity. It is, after all, the September issue of British Vogue.’ Meghan’s ethos is woven through the magazine but she adds: ‘More than anything, this issue is about the power of the collective.
In identifying our personal strengths, it is anchored in the knowledge that we are even stronger together. You will find that spirit of inclusivity on the cover: diverse portraiture of women of varying age, colour, creed, nationality and life experience, and of unquestionable inspiration.
‘These are our forces for change. And among all of these strong women on the cover, a mirror – a space for you, the reader, to see yourself. Because you, too, are part of this collective.’
Apparently taking a dig at the advertisers who provide a lucrative source of income for the magazine – perhaps ironic given her championing of designer clothes – she says: ‘There is one caveat: This is a magazine. It’s still a business… there will be advertising sections that are requisite for every issue, so while I feel confident that you’ll feel my thumbprint on most pages, please know that there are elements that just come with the territory.
‘The overall sentiment I hope you’ll find, however, will be one of positivity, kindness, humour and inclusivity.’
Meghan is not the first royal to appear in British Vogue, with sister-in-law Kate appearing on the front cover in June 2016 (pictured)
Meghan ends by saying that the experience of working on the issue while pregnant, and then on maternity leave with son Archie, has been a ‘joy’.
Responding, Mr Enninful says he has had a ‘deep and profound respect’ for the duchess – whom he describes as a ‘brilliant, biracial, American powerhouse’ – since she ‘first began to navigate the waters of the British establishment’.
Describing her as ‘an influential beacon of change’, he adds: ‘And then there is the gently modernising manner in which she has approached her new role at the centre of Britain’s public life.
From negotiating first-time motherhood within an ancient institution to changing how we frame the conversation around women who face rabid media interest, her positive influence is everywhere.
‘I simply never imagined that, in my lifetime, someone of my colour would – or could – enter the highest echelons of our Royal Family.’
- The September issue of British Vogue, guest-edited by the Duchess of Sussex, is available on news-stands and digital download on Friday.
Meghan has advocated for women’s rights during her time as a royal. Pictured: A pregnant Meghan used a marker to write messages onto bananas being bagged up for sex workers
Vogue has confirmed Meghan was not paid for her guest editorship.
None of the money raised by the magazine’s advertising or cover price will go to charity, although Vogue’s owner Conde Nast contributes to good causes throughout the year.
For example, last year they supported an event at which clothes worn by celebrities were auctioned for the LGBT youth homelessness charity the Albert Kennedy Trust.
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